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50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2
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Ja cu opet mozda da budem dosadan. Gledam malo semu i neke stravi mi nisu jasne.
1. Koja je svrha trimer kondenzatora od 1pF na jednoj strani ktristala, a na drugoj strani se nalazi 33pF?
2. Zasto nemas pozadinsko ovdetljenje na LCD-u?
3. Koja je svrha potenciometra za kontrast? To se jednom podesi pomocu razdelnika napona i vise se ne dira.


E sada malo oko rutiranja. U potpunosti se slazem sa Gosom, tj. nema potrebe projektovati PCB, ako su bitne svari uredjaja totalno neispitano. Kada kazem na bitne stvari, mislim na ulazni deo. Komotno moze lepo da se uradi na proto-board-u i izlaz da se snima osciloskopom. Kada taj deo proradi, onda treba raditi PCB.
Druga stvar oko PCB-a, je to da svuda koristis iste debljine linija. Zasto? Napajanje treba da ti bude linija koja ce biti 25-50 mil-a u zavisnosti od potrosnje.
Takodje, ne treba bezati od SMD komponenti. One nisu nikakav bauk. Postavi slobodno sve pasivne komponente da budu SMD. Mnogo lepse i lakse ces da ih postavih i da imas bolje spajanje. Takodje, mislim da treba da radis 2-slojnu PCB, a ne jednoslojnu, jer imas dosta prekida u ground plane-u. Ne desnoj strani PCB-a ti je ground plane prekinut.
Pogledaj sliku u prilogu. Odnosi se na secenje linija. Zasto seces linije ovako kratko, skoro kao pod 90. Slobodno polomi liniju da imas duzi krak i bolje secenje. Zaokruzio sam neka mesta koja sam video.
Inace, poslusaj sta ti stariji kazu. Prvo proveri da li nesto radi, pa tek onda rutiraj. Bacices dosta vremena i novca da napravis nesto, a to mozda uopste ne radi kako treba.
Prica se desila sa napajanjem. Samo na osnovu racunarske simulacije je projektovan PCB i desila se situacija da to uopste ne radi onako kako radi u simulaciji.
Elektronika je kompleksna nauka i sve mora prvo da se proveri, pa tek onda da se stavlja na papir. Pogledaj koliko je vremena Braca proveo dok je testirao na rasterskom PCB-u ili sl. signal generator i jos nije PCB gotov. To je jedini ispravan put.

Hteo bih jos da dodam komentar na LCD i osvezavanje o kom si pricao nekoliko puta.  Brzina osvezavanja displeja je brzina kojom menjas neki prikaz tako da ljudsko oko ne moze da vidi da si nesto promenio, a to je uradjeno. Primer ti je film. Menjaju se neke slike ispred tvojih ociju, a ti ne vidis da su to slike, vec je to film koji se kontinualno prikazuje, bez ikakve naznake promene slika. To je sistem koji se zove perzistencija vida.
Displej treba samo da ti prikaze koja je trenutna frekvencija ulaznog signala. 4-bit-a ili 8-bit-a magistale displeja, nece nista da ti pomogne da nesto brze prikazes. Gosa je lepo rekao. Imas interval merenja, tj. npr. 1 sekunda. Brojis impulse u toku tog intevala i to ti je frekvencija ulaznog signala. Na kraju tog intervala osvezis i displej. MCU i taj deo su mnogo bezazleniji od ulaznog dela, koji ima ozbiljan zadatak, tj. da pri lepo pripremi ulazni signal za brojac unutar MCU-a. Program MCU-a je relativno jednostavan. 50MHz, pa cak i 10MHz nisu frekvencije koje treba olako shvatiti.


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50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 03-25-2019, 10:23 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by emiSAr - 03-25-2019, 03:20 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 03-25-2019, 03:27 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by branko tod - 03-25-2019, 07:37 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 03-25-2019, 07:44 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by MILANNN - 03-25-2019, 07:50 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by MILANNN - 03-25-2019, 07:59 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by MILANNN - 03-25-2019, 07:54 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by MILANNN - 03-25-2019, 07:56 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by MILANNN - 03-25-2019, 07:58 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 03-25-2019, 08:01 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Braca - 03-25-2019, 08:10 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by branko tod - 03-25-2019, 09:34 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 03-25-2019, 10:10 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Milan94 - 03-25-2019, 10:39 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 03-25-2019, 10:43 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by MILANNN - 03-25-2019, 11:12 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by MILANNN - 03-25-2019, 11:13 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by MILANNN - 03-25-2019, 11:15 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Gosha - 03-25-2019, 11:19 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by MILANNN - 03-25-2019, 11:19 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by MILANNN - 03-25-2019, 11:21 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by MILANNN - 03-25-2019, 11:22 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 03-25-2019, 11:24 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by emiSAr - 03-25-2019, 11:32 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Braca - 03-26-2019, 12:12 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by branko tod - 03-26-2019, 08:19 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by mikikg - 03-26-2019, 08:48 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by branko tod - 03-26-2019, 09:29 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 03-26-2019, 09:55 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by emiSAr - 03-26-2019, 12:23 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 03-26-2019, 08:51 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by PeceMK - 03-26-2019, 09:43 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by gorankg - 03-26-2019, 10:37 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by branko tod - 03-27-2019, 12:02 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Gosha - 03-27-2019, 06:59 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by branko tod - 03-27-2019, 08:05 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Gosha - 03-27-2019, 09:40 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by mikikg - 03-27-2019, 09:43 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by branko tod - 03-27-2019, 10:13 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by mikikg - 03-27-2019, 10:29 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by gorankg - 03-27-2019, 10:48 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by progster - 03-28-2019, 09:41 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by branko tod - 03-27-2019, 12:07 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 03-27-2019, 01:05 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by gorankg - 03-27-2019, 02:08 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by mikikg - 03-27-2019, 03:03 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 03-27-2019, 04:59 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by MILANNN - 03-27-2019, 09:36 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 03-28-2019, 02:43 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 03-28-2019, 08:09 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by branko tod - 03-29-2019, 12:13 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 03-29-2019, 12:20 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by branko tod - 03-29-2019, 08:38 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by gorso69 - 03-29-2019, 07:12 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 03-29-2019, 08:04 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by vojinilic - 03-29-2019, 10:31 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 03-29-2019, 11:08 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by branko tod - 03-30-2019, 08:49 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by gorankg - 03-30-2019, 10:14 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 04-23-2019, 09:04 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 04-24-2019, 10:05 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by me[R]a - 04-24-2019, 10:29 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 04-24-2019, 10:41 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 04-25-2019, 08:37 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Gosha - 04-25-2019, 09:21 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 04-25-2019, 10:25 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 04-25-2019, 11:06 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by vojinilic - 04-25-2019, 06:03 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ZASto - 04-25-2019, 06:33 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 04-25-2019, 07:13 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 05-28-2019, 10:12 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Braca - 05-29-2019, 09:47 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 06-01-2019, 11:34 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Khadgar2007 - 06-01-2019, 11:43 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 06-01-2019, 11:51 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Khadgar2007 - 06-01-2019, 11:58 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 06-01-2019, 12:08 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by emiSAr - 06-01-2019, 03:20 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Braca - 06-01-2019, 03:42 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Gosha - 06-12-2019, 10:45 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Braca - 06-13-2019, 08:52 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Gosha - 06-13-2019, 09:48 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by gorankg - 06-13-2019, 09:32 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Braca - 06-18-2019, 01:12 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Khadgar2007 - 06-18-2019, 01:31 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by tomam - 06-18-2019, 02:07 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 06-18-2019, 02:32 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Khadgar2007 - 06-18-2019, 07:46 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 06-18-2019, 09:50 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Braca - 06-18-2019, 08:18 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Khadgar2007 - 06-18-2019, 09:53 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Braca - 06-19-2019, 10:42 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 06-19-2019, 11:02 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Braca - 06-19-2019, 05:38 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Khadgar2007 - 06-19-2019, 05:46 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by gorso69 - 06-22-2019, 12:46 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Khadgar2007 - 06-22-2019, 01:12 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Braca - 06-22-2019, 02:53 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Khadgar2007 - 06-22-2019, 03:19 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Braca - 06-22-2019, 04:01 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Khadgar2007 - 06-22-2019, 04:09 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Braca - 06-22-2019, 04:18 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Braca - 07-09-2019, 11:15 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 07-24-2019, 10:06 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by emiSAr - 07-24-2019, 11:36 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 04-09-2020, 10:57 PM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Khadgar2007 - 04-10-2020, 12:21 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by Braca - 04-10-2020, 08:06 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by branko tod - 04-10-2020, 09:45 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by emiSAr - 04-10-2020, 09:59 AM
RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 04-10-2020, 11:29 AM
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RE: 50MHz Frequency Meter Mk.2 - by ronovar - 04-18-2020, 11:16 AM
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