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[split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita
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ako je po ovoj šemi http://forum.yu3ma.net/attachment.php?aid=9723 onda ti je C5 tu za filtraciju napona koji ide na IC i njegova vrednost je po šemi 47uF. za napajanje čipa i njegove logike to bi trebalo da je dovoljno. releji mogu da zujkaju dok se uključuju iz dva razloga-prvi je nedovoljno isfiltriran napon kojim se napaja relej (vertikala plus napajanja - relej - R1/R18 - relej - tranzist5or-okidač - dioda - GND) , ili nedovoljno filtriran napon koji pobušuje bazu tranzistra-okidača(Q4 i/ili Q5).

pošto imamo dobru (moglo bi i 100uF samo ako može stati na pločicu!) filtraciju čipa kontam da ni napon baze ne zaostaje pa mi ostaje sumnja da je 3k3 zapravo malo za pobudu baza tranzistora okidača. Dragan100 je u šemi postavio 1N5929 Zener diodu koja je 15V 3W ,ali je struja koja napaja IC i treba da pobudi baze oba tranzistora "uštrojena" na svega 10ak mA. ako 1N5929 ima deklarisanu snagu 3W mi je možemo "ladno" opteretiti sa 20mA na njenu snagu - sad ostaje više struje za napajanje IC kao i obe baze tranzistora. ako je grana napajanja pojačala 50V a napon Zener diode 15V razlika je 35V. umjesto R17 3k3 sad računamo R=U/I = 35(napon koji treba da ostane na otporniku) / 20 (mA struja koja ne preopterećuje Zener diodu) i dobijemo 1750 Ohm. disipacija na njemu bila bi 0,7W pa je dobro odabrati otpornik od otprilike 1750 Ohm (što približnije) snage 2W.

tako smo povećali strujni kapacitet napajanja čipa i pobuda baza - ostaje nam da smanjimo i potrebe struja baza a to se može uraditi tako što ćemo koristiti tranzistore u Darlington spoju. na mjesto tranzistora koji okida RS tj Q5 postaviti recimo BC517 dok na mjesto Q4 u ovom slučaju ne bi išao ispod TO220 jer ovaj relej ti troši 36mA i hoće da povuče struje,opali dobar EMF po isključenju a i TO220 ima kakav takav hladnjak na sebi plus nije skup i da se kupi.

sa ovim doradama ili bar nekom od njih ovo bi trebalo da proradi...
sve ovo gore napisah jer razmišljam kako zujanje može doći od "gladi" za strujom pri pobudi drugog tranzistora: IC od trenutnih 10mA koliko je na raspolaganju i sam troši po neki mA,dodatno je potrebno dati neki mA za pobudu prvog releja a onda dolazi i drugi pa u tom trenutku možda dolazi do "pumpanja" C5 a time i pojave tog zujanja.

Darlinton tranzistori tražili bi dosta manje struje Ib od običnog tranzistora,bili bi brži u "okidanju". smanjenje vrednosti R17 u startu bi povećalo strujni kapacitet zaštite... bar tako razmišljam.
Bože,daj svakome pameti - ni mene ne zaboravi...
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[split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita - by TDA - 08-29-2014, 10:52 PM
RE: [split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita - by TDA - 12-20-2014, 10:35 AM
RE: [split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita - by TDA - 12-20-2014, 11:04 AM
RE: [split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita - by TDA - 12-20-2014, 03:20 PM
RE: [split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita - by TDA - 12-21-2014, 12:44 PM
RE: [split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita - by TDA - 11-11-2015, 11:45 AM
RE: [split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita - by TDA - 11-11-2015, 12:13 PM
RE: [split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita - by TDA - 11-11-2015, 02:51 PM
RE: [split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita - by TDA - 11-11-2015, 04:30 PM
RE: [split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita - by TDA - 11-27-2015, 07:53 PM
RE: [split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita - by TDA - 11-29-2015, 06:26 PM
RE: [split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita - by TDA - 01-26-2016, 09:23 PM
RE: [split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita - by TDA - 02-24-2016, 08:12 PM
RE: [split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 03-29-2016, 11:25 PM
RE: [split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita - by TDA - 03-30-2016, 06:50 PM
RE: [split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita - by TDA - 03-30-2016, 07:32 PM
RE: [split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita - by TDA - 03-30-2016, 07:51 PM
RE: [split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita - by TDA - 03-30-2016, 08:33 PM
RE: [split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita - by TDA - 03-30-2016, 09:17 PM
RE: [split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita - by TDA - 03-30-2016, 10:34 PM
RE: [split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita - by TDA - 03-31-2016, 07:36 AM
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RE: [split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita - by TDA - 04-01-2016, 11:08 AM
RE: [split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita - by TDA - 04-01-2016, 11:40 AM
RE: [split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita - by nik - 04-01-2016, 02:12 PM
RE: [split] LME49810 + EF Amp -zaštita - by TDA - 04-01-2016, 02:15 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-30-2014, 05:24 AM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by TDA - 08-30-2014, 08:53 AM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-30-2014, 09:34 AM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by TDA - 08-30-2014, 11:17 AM
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RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-30-2014, 10:54 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by TDA - 08-30-2014, 11:14 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-30-2014, 11:30 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by TDA - 08-31-2014, 08:20 AM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-31-2014, 08:46 AM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by TDA - 08-31-2014, 11:06 AM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by buca33 - 08-31-2014, 01:59 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-31-2014, 02:01 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by Dragan100 - 08-31-2014, 03:48 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by TDA - 08-31-2014, 04:31 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by TDA - 08-31-2014, 07:18 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-31-2014, 08:11 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by euronymous - 08-31-2014, 08:42 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-31-2014, 09:25 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by TDA - 08-31-2014, 09:31 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by euronymous - 09-01-2014, 05:44 AM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 09-01-2014, 07:30 AM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by Dragan100 - 09-01-2014, 12:33 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by buca33 - 09-01-2014, 01:52 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by Dragan100 - 09-01-2014, 05:16 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 09-01-2014, 06:09 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by Dragan100 - 09-01-2014, 06:55 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 09-01-2014, 08:33 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by Dragan100 - 09-02-2014, 12:40 AM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by TDA - 09-02-2014, 07:29 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by Dragan100 - 09-02-2014, 07:41 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by TDA - 09-02-2014, 08:20 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 09-02-2014, 09:02 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by Dragan100 - 09-02-2014, 11:42 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by Dragan100 - 09-03-2014, 01:17 AM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 09-03-2014, 05:20 AM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by TDA - 09-03-2014, 06:41 AM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by TDA - 09-06-2014, 09:56 AM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by TDA - 09-06-2014, 10:29 AM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by Marshall - 09-06-2014, 09:31 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by TDA - 09-07-2014, 09:03 AM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 09-07-2014, 09:38 AM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by TDA - 09-07-2014, 12:28 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by TDA - 09-07-2014, 01:49 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by Marshall - 09-07-2014, 02:45 PM
RE: LME49810 + EF Amp - by TDA - 09-08-2014, 11:24 PM

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