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APEX NE555 zaštita
ovo sam za sebe planirao već baš dugo vremena i napokon se danas to i desilo:



sve u jednom:


na pločici 80x61.3mm sad je zaštita od pregrevanja preko NTC otpornika gore desno,vremenski odloženo uključenje (podesivo menjanjem 1uF ili 680k,povećanje otpornosti ili kapaciteta povećava vreme odlaganja,i obratno),brzo isključenje releja po isključivanju pojačala,zaštita od preopterećenja (isključivanjem releja) gore levo,zaštita zvučnika od DC proboja prvo preko NE555 zaštite (od vertikalne sredine na desno) kao i do sada ali i dodatna zaštita zvučnika ukoliko se desi da kontakti releja "zalepe" jedan za drugi - preko ESP120 "Pajser" zaštite.

dodati su i kalem+otpornik paralelno kao i blok kondenzator+otpornik redno iza izlaza pojačala odnosno pre ulaza zaštite i kontakata releja,mogu da se koriste oba a može i bilo koji od njih uz pomoć kratkospojnika (umesto kalem+otpornik) ili jednostavno nepostavljanjem elemenata(blok kondenzator+otpornik).

znam da će se mnogi namrštiti na ideju "pajser" zaštite ali ja ću je koristiti iz par razloga. 
prvi razlog mrštenja biće verovatno pomisao pogrešnog aktiviranja zaštite i najčešći argument je opadanje kapaciteta elektrolitskih kondenzatora povezanih "antiserijski" (redno povezani ali sa + kao međusobnom vezom,minusi "gledaju ka napolje") pa kako opada kapacitet tako raste i frekvencija pri kojoj ta zaštita reaguje. Mile APEX je dao dve verzije takve zaštite ali sam se davno pre toga odlučio na ESP120 verziju sa šemom koja umesto dva elektrolitska kondenzatora koristi jedan blok. http://sound-au.com/project120.htm (valja pročitati iako se možda ne slažete).
od tada kad sam je napravio bila je i ostala povezana direktno na konektore zvučnih kutija,probao sam ne znam koliko novih već proverenih ali i pojačala-prototipova i NIKADA nisam imao pogrešno aktiviranje. toliko dugo je bila tamo da sam se nakon nekoliko godina i sam iznenadio da je uopšte tu - nije ni bilo potrebe da to znam jer je i taj vid zaštite radio kako treba.

tada kad sam je napravio probavao sam i da je testiram,koristio sam tada jednu od aplikacija za pravljenje zvučnih kutija,koja je mogla da ide do 10Hz ali ne i ispod (čini mi se Win isd il i tako nešto).

...........

evo nađoh i post sa ES foruma pa ću da citiram sam sebe:

https://www.elitesecurity.org/p2826387
Quote:"06.03.2011. u 19:46 - pre 148 meseci

Testirao sam "pajser".
Umjesto 0,47R stavio sam 470Ohm i njemu paralelno voltmetar unimera Iskra43,a umjesto zvučnika digitalni unimer-voltmetar.

Krenuo sam od 10Hz (program koji imam niže nije mogao) i polako pojačavao pojačalo.
Cifra na digitalnom voltmetru je stigla do preko 50V a zaštita se nije aktivirala,pa pretpostavljam da ne bi ni pri praktičnoj upotrebi u zvučnoj kutiji,zato dalje sa podizanjem frekvencije nisam ni išao.
Zatim sam zaštitu spajao na 21,5/43/64,5VDC.
Pri prvom naponu( 21VDC) nije reagovala(dijak je većeg probojnog napona),
pri drugom ( 43VDC) reagovala je sa malom vremenskom zadrškom od odokativno trećine sekunde(nemam osciloskop...)
dok je pri naponu od 64,5VDC reagovala gotovo trenutno.

Mislim da će konačno ući u moje zvučne kutije!

(znam da cifre sa mojih unimera nisu sto posto relevantne(greše jer nisu RMS i tome slično...),ali ako su u okviru i do 30% od stvarnih rekao bi da ovaj vid zaštite kao poslednja odbrana zvučnika sasvim opravdava svoje postojanje)"



levo na kineskom unimeru napon frekvencije 10Hz,a na analognom struja kroz "pajser" zaštitu.

stvar je postavljena dakle kao poslednja odbrana zvučnika koji otprilike danas i kod hobiste-početnika a čije cene neretko idu 
oko i preko 100e,a kod mnogih i daleko više. kod mene će ići svakako.


.lay6   APEX NE555 dual mono dugi relej.SIS.lay6 (Size: 322,99 KB / Downloads: 2)

ono što svakako treba i valja je još nekoliko puta sve proveriti jer je moguće da sam grešio više od jednom,zbog čega sam upravo menjao post.
Bože,daj svakome pameti - ni mene ne zaboravi...
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APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 06-13-2013, 07:00 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 11-02-2014, 08:42 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by Marshall - 11-02-2014, 09:10 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by TDA - 11-02-2014, 09:21 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by Marshall - 11-02-2014, 09:22 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by TDA - 11-02-2014, 09:28 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by Marshall - 11-02-2014, 09:31 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by TDA - 11-02-2014, 09:37 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 11-03-2014, 09:49 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by Marshall - 11-02-2014, 09:39 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by ivanlukic - 04-27-2015, 02:01 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 04-27-2015, 03:51 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by ronovar - 06-29-2015, 02:12 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by pmiroslav81 - 05-24-2023, 08:29 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by vdii - 09-02-2015, 08:13 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 09-02-2015, 10:04 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by vdii - 09-08-2015, 10:22 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 09-09-2015, 09:01 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 01-11-2016, 11:55 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 01-11-2016, 02:13 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by RSK - 01-11-2016, 04:24 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 01-11-2016, 05:52 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by TDA - 01-11-2016, 08:02 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by RSK - 01-12-2016, 12:47 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by ronovar - 03-13-2016, 03:16 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 03-13-2016, 03:35 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by ronovar - 03-13-2016, 03:53 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 03-13-2016, 05:55 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by Dackotronic - 07-13-2017, 11:18 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 07-14-2017, 08:55 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by Dackotronic - 07-14-2017, 09:42 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 07-14-2017, 11:14 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by PeceMK - 09-03-2017, 03:26 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 09-03-2017, 07:56 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 09-04-2017, 12:23 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 09-04-2017, 06:26 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by PeceMK - 09-04-2017, 05:22 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 09-04-2017, 06:38 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 06-03-2019, 07:03 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by miligor - 01-06-2021, 08:16 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 01-06-2021, 11:57 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by gorso69 - 01-07-2021, 12:01 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by miligor - 01-07-2021, 12:10 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 01-07-2021, 01:54 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 01-07-2021, 01:23 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by DaveFred - 06-04-2021, 01:47 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 06-05-2021, 10:14 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by pmiroslav81 - 05-24-2023, 06:01 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by Boban - 05-24-2023, 06:44 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by pmiroslav81 - 05-24-2023, 05:43 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by NIXIE - 05-24-2023, 08:39 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by ronovar - 05-24-2023, 08:53 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by pmiroslav81 - 05-24-2023, 05:53 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by NIXIE - 05-24-2023, 08:59 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 05-24-2023, 11:54 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by ronovar - 05-24-2023, 02:08 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by ronovar - 05-24-2023, 06:20 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by pmiroslav81 - 05-25-2023, 09:40 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by Bocko - 05-24-2023, 08:21 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by Bocko - 05-24-2023, 08:31 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by NIXIE - 05-25-2023, 09:50 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by ronovar - 05-25-2023, 11:23 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by pmiroslav81 - 05-26-2023, 08:02 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 05-25-2023, 05:12 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by ronovar - 05-25-2023, 05:21 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 05-25-2023, 06:44 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by Аритон - 05-25-2023, 06:19 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 05-25-2023, 06:57 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by ronovar - 05-29-2023, 11:48 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by pmiroslav81 - 05-29-2023, 05:35 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 05-29-2023, 06:35 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by Zoksy - 05-29-2023, 08:37 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 06-13-2013, 09:30 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 06-14-2013, 10:20 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 06-14-2013, 04:31 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 06-14-2013, 07:33 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 06-14-2013, 07:49 PM
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APEX NE555 zaštita - by Marshall - 06-14-2013, 08:01 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 06-14-2013, 08:06 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by taurus22 - 06-14-2013, 09:33 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 06-15-2013, 12:59 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 07-08-2013, 05:33 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by wiljj78 - 07-08-2013, 06:11 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 07-08-2013, 06:20 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by wiljj78 - 07-08-2013, 08:56 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 07-09-2013, 11:50 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by wiljj78 - 07-09-2013, 02:46 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 07-09-2013, 04:13 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 07-21-2013, 07:49 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 07-21-2013, 08:18 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by TDA - 07-21-2013, 09:12 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 07-21-2013, 10:19 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by samuki - 07-21-2013, 10:52 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by samuki - 07-21-2013, 11:23 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 07-22-2013, 04:31 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by samuki - 07-22-2013, 06:35 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by TDA - 07-22-2013, 07:45 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by wiljj78 - 07-22-2013, 10:03 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 07-22-2013, 01:17 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by wiljj78 - 07-22-2013, 05:18 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 07-22-2013, 07:38 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 07-22-2013, 07:42 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by wiljj78 - 07-22-2013, 09:24 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by wiljj78 - 07-22-2013, 09:56 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 07-23-2013, 07:15 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 07-24-2013, 05:00 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by TDA - 07-24-2013, 05:37 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 07-24-2013, 05:51 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by samuki - 07-24-2013, 08:25 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-01-2013, 06:44 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-02-2013, 07:21 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by samuki - 08-02-2013, 09:17 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by midji84 - 08-02-2013, 10:59 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by wiljj78 - 08-02-2013, 11:38 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by wiljj78 - 08-02-2013, 11:39 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-03-2013, 07:24 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-03-2013, 07:27 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by samuki - 08-03-2013, 10:52 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-06-2013, 03:05 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by midji84 - 08-06-2013, 10:26 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-07-2013, 05:02 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by midji84 - 08-07-2013, 09:01 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-08-2013, 07:52 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-11-2013, 06:07 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by End0rPh1nE - 08-15-2013, 10:18 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-18-2013, 05:55 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by End0rPh1nE - 08-21-2013, 11:24 AM
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APEX NE555 zaštita - by End0rPh1nE - 08-28-2013, 02:25 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-28-2013, 05:09 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by End0rPh1nE - 08-28-2013, 06:17 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by vulejov - 08-28-2013, 06:27 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by End0rPh1nE - 08-28-2013, 07:06 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by End0rPh1nE - 09-05-2013, 10:02 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 09-05-2013, 04:17 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by End0rPh1nE - 09-06-2013, 10:21 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by TDA - 09-06-2013, 10:31 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 09-06-2013, 01:40 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 09-06-2013, 06:42 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by End0rPh1nE - 09-06-2013, 06:55 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 09-06-2013, 07:13 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by End0rPh1nE - 09-07-2013, 12:02 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 09-07-2013, 01:08 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 09-25-2013, 08:45 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by samuki - 09-25-2013, 08:54 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by taurus22 - 09-25-2013, 11:05 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 11-19-2013, 07:16 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by TDA - 11-19-2013, 07:39 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 11-19-2013, 09:25 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by TDA - 11-19-2013, 09:40 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 11-20-2013, 02:58 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 11-20-2013, 09:19 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 11-20-2013, 09:16 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 11-20-2013, 10:34 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 11-20-2013, 11:17 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by euronymous - 11-20-2013, 11:48 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by End0rPh1nE - 11-21-2013, 01:42 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by midji84 - 11-21-2013, 02:38 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 11-21-2013, 03:36 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 11-21-2013, 04:26 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by euronymous - 11-21-2013, 09:51 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 11-21-2013, 10:22 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 11-21-2013, 12:14 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by midji84 - 11-21-2013, 12:48 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 11-21-2013, 05:03 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 11-21-2013, 06:21 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by samuki - 11-21-2013, 08:08 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by Makso - 11-21-2013, 08:53 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 11-21-2013, 09:27 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 11-21-2013, 09:28 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by samuki - 11-21-2013, 09:49 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 11-21-2013, 09:50 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by Makso - 11-21-2013, 09:54 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 11-21-2013, 09:58 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by samuki - 11-21-2013, 10:32 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by Makso - 11-21-2013, 10:42 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 11-21-2013, 10:44 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 11-21-2013, 10:45 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 11-21-2013, 10:49 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by samuki - 11-21-2013, 10:51 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by Makso - 11-21-2013, 10:54 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 11-21-2013, 10:54 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 11-21-2013, 11:02 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by Makso - 11-22-2013, 11:51 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 11-22-2013, 12:55 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by Makso - 11-22-2013, 08:49 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 11-22-2013, 09:14 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 12-26-2013, 09:21 PM
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APEX NE555 zaštita - by TDA - 12-26-2013, 09:25 PM
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