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APEX NE555 zaštita
(05-25-2023, 11:23 AM)ronovar Wrote: Relej mora da ima cim vecu izdrzljivu amperazu tako da releje od 10A ne stavaljati u zastitu za speaker protection, stavlja se 16A+ jer je najveci neprijatelj releja DC komponenta a po specifikaciji releja 30ADC unisti relej kontakte u par ms, i kontakti se zalijepe ili cak i dio ispari ali uzrukuju kratak spoj amp-speaker i onda kao da ni zastite nema, DC komponenta i napon napajanja pojacala ide na zvucnik, i zamisli da imas 42VDC a otpor idealnog zvucnika je 8R (u realnosti je manji i dodje i do 4ohma!) ohmovim zakonom dobijemo da struja koja tece u zvucnik (koji se sastoji od magneta, membrane, skretnice...) I = 42VDC / 8R = 5,25Arms! Ima da spali samo tako zvucnik.

Zato uvijek stavljaj u zastitu zvucnika kada radi sa relejima 16A+, a relej od 30A je idealan jer moze da ima snagu da pri jakoj DC struji moze da otpoji kontakt od zvucnika sto je i poanta zastite da zastiti zvucnik.

Sto se radnog napona tice gledaj da ti je radni napon releja cim manja razlika ulazni napon - napon releja , jer ti je time disipacija na serijskom bjt tranzistoru manja....zener je tu da fixira napon baze na 24VDC za napon releja pa netrebamo izmedju releja i bjt+zener ogromni 5W otpornik......bjt+zener je tu da disipaciju sa otpornika prenese na BJT jer zener je preslaba da podnese tu disipaciju, jedino ako bi stavljao tesko nabavljive (ako i postoje!) 5W zener diode od 24VDC.

Primjer:

12V relej, 42VDC ulazni napon, potrosnja releja 50mA, disipacija je: P = (42VDC - 12VDC) x 0,05A = 1,5W
24V relej, 42VDC ulazni napon, potrosnja releja 50mA, disipacija je: P = (42VDC - 24VDC) x 0,05A = 0,9W

Izgleda mala razlika disipacije serijskog tranzistora ali manje grijanje spulne releja, duzi zivotni vijek releja (iako je glavni krivac DC napon koji unistava kontakte releja), a i gledajmo u buducnost k zelenoj prirorid pa svaka usteda od 0,6W je i zelenije priroda Smile

Tako da pokusaj naci relej od 24VDC i 16A+, SPDT (Single Pole Dual Throw) i stavim takva dva na PCB (svaki za svoj kanal), logika neka bude ista za upravljanje oba dva releja, stavi se bjt+zener i SK104-25,4 hladnjak za hladjenje serijskog bjt tranzistora (taj hladnjak SK104 se kupi bilo gdje u lokalnom ducanu elektronicke opreme) i jos bi doddao jedan MJE340 na izlazni pin NE555 da pojacamo struju za upravljanje dva releja.

Na izlaz cu dodati fastcon konektore, RC i RL na PCB, i NO kontakte relejan na konektore gdje se spaja GND pa ko zeli spoji na GND ko ne ostavi da lebde u zraku.

Jedino treba na shemu dodati jos delay sklop da po ukljucenju napajanja NE555 spoji relej nakon 5sekundi, ostalo je sve vec na shemi HMAP odlicno odradio!

Eto stavi link za relej koji mozes da nabavis pa cu onda koliko stignem vremenski nacrtati PCB za taj relej footprint na PCB i pospojiti kontakte prema shemi releja....

Hvala na ovim informacijama. 
Ja iskreno na trenutnom trafou imam 12VAC sekundar i njega sam mislio da koristim , koliko sam video onda ni ne trebam da lemim elemente bjt+zener..... ali kod nekog drugog trafoa ce mi trebati. 
Tako sto se mene tice moze ta sema samo da ima na plocici i zobel naravno sa finder relejima  koji ste predlozili
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APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 06-13-2013, 07:00 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 11-02-2014, 08:42 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by Marshall - 11-02-2014, 09:10 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by TDA - 11-02-2014, 09:21 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by Marshall - 11-02-2014, 09:22 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by TDA - 11-02-2014, 09:28 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by Marshall - 11-02-2014, 09:31 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by TDA - 11-02-2014, 09:37 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 11-03-2014, 09:49 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by Marshall - 11-02-2014, 09:39 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by ivanlukic - 04-27-2015, 02:01 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 04-27-2015, 03:51 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by ronovar - 06-29-2015, 02:12 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by pmiroslav81 - 05-24-2023, 08:29 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by vdii - 09-02-2015, 08:13 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 09-02-2015, 10:04 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by vdii - 09-08-2015, 10:22 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 09-09-2015, 09:01 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 01-11-2016, 11:55 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 01-11-2016, 02:13 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by RSK - 01-11-2016, 04:24 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 01-11-2016, 05:52 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by TDA - 01-11-2016, 08:02 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by RSK - 01-12-2016, 12:47 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by ronovar - 03-13-2016, 03:16 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 03-13-2016, 03:35 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by ronovar - 03-13-2016, 03:53 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 03-13-2016, 05:55 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by Dackotronic - 07-13-2017, 11:18 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 07-14-2017, 08:55 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by Dackotronic - 07-14-2017, 09:42 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 07-14-2017, 11:14 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by PeceMK - 09-03-2017, 03:26 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 09-03-2017, 07:56 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 09-04-2017, 12:23 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 09-04-2017, 06:26 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by PeceMK - 09-04-2017, 05:22 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 09-04-2017, 06:38 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 06-03-2019, 07:03 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by miligor - 01-06-2021, 08:16 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 01-06-2021, 11:57 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by gorso69 - 01-07-2021, 12:01 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by miligor - 01-07-2021, 12:10 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 01-07-2021, 01:54 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 01-07-2021, 01:23 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by DaveFred - 06-04-2021, 01:47 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 06-05-2021, 10:14 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by pmiroslav81 - 05-24-2023, 06:01 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by Boban - 05-24-2023, 06:44 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by pmiroslav81 - 05-24-2023, 05:43 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by NIXIE - 05-24-2023, 08:39 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by ronovar - 05-24-2023, 08:53 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by pmiroslav81 - 05-24-2023, 05:53 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by NIXIE - 05-24-2023, 08:59 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 05-24-2023, 11:54 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by ronovar - 05-24-2023, 02:08 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by ronovar - 05-24-2023, 06:20 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by pmiroslav81 - 05-25-2023, 09:40 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by Bocko - 05-24-2023, 08:21 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by Bocko - 05-24-2023, 08:31 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by NIXIE - 05-25-2023, 09:50 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by ronovar - 05-25-2023, 11:23 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by pmiroslav81 - 05-26-2023, 08:02 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 05-25-2023, 05:12 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by ronovar - 05-25-2023, 05:21 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 05-25-2023, 06:44 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by Аритон - 05-25-2023, 06:19 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 05-25-2023, 06:57 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by ronovar - 05-29-2023, 11:48 AM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by pmiroslav81 - 05-29-2023, 05:35 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 05-29-2023, 06:35 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by Zoksy - 05-29-2023, 08:37 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 06-13-2013, 09:30 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 06-14-2013, 10:20 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 06-14-2013, 04:31 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 06-14-2013, 07:33 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 06-14-2013, 07:49 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 06-14-2013, 07:52 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by Marshall - 06-14-2013, 08:01 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 06-14-2013, 08:06 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by taurus22 - 06-14-2013, 09:33 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 06-15-2013, 12:59 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 07-08-2013, 05:33 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by wiljj78 - 07-08-2013, 06:11 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 07-08-2013, 06:20 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by wiljj78 - 07-08-2013, 08:56 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 07-09-2013, 11:50 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by wiljj78 - 07-09-2013, 02:46 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 07-09-2013, 04:13 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 07-21-2013, 07:49 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 07-21-2013, 08:18 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by TDA - 07-21-2013, 09:12 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by apexaudio - 07-21-2013, 10:19 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by samuki - 07-21-2013, 10:52 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by samuki - 07-21-2013, 11:23 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 07-22-2013, 04:31 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by samuki - 07-22-2013, 06:35 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by TDA - 07-22-2013, 07:45 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by wiljj78 - 07-22-2013, 10:03 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 07-22-2013, 01:17 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by wiljj78 - 07-22-2013, 05:18 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 07-22-2013, 07:38 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 07-22-2013, 07:42 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by wiljj78 - 07-22-2013, 09:24 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by wiljj78 - 07-22-2013, 09:56 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 07-23-2013, 07:15 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 07-24-2013, 05:00 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by TDA - 07-24-2013, 05:37 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 07-24-2013, 05:51 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by samuki - 07-24-2013, 08:25 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-01-2013, 06:44 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-02-2013, 07:21 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by samuki - 08-02-2013, 09:17 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by midji84 - 08-02-2013, 10:59 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by wiljj78 - 08-02-2013, 11:38 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by wiljj78 - 08-02-2013, 11:39 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-03-2013, 07:24 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-03-2013, 07:27 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by samuki - 08-03-2013, 10:52 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-06-2013, 03:05 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by midji84 - 08-06-2013, 10:26 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-07-2013, 05:02 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by midji84 - 08-07-2013, 09:01 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-08-2013, 07:52 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-11-2013, 06:07 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by End0rPh1nE - 08-15-2013, 10:18 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-18-2013, 05:55 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by End0rPh1nE - 08-21-2013, 11:24 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-21-2013, 04:22 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by End0rPh1nE - 08-28-2013, 02:25 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 08-28-2013, 05:09 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by End0rPh1nE - 08-28-2013, 06:17 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by vulejov - 08-28-2013, 06:27 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by End0rPh1nE - 08-28-2013, 07:06 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by End0rPh1nE - 09-05-2013, 10:02 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 09-05-2013, 04:17 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by End0rPh1nE - 09-06-2013, 10:21 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by TDA - 09-06-2013, 10:31 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 09-06-2013, 01:40 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 09-06-2013, 06:42 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by End0rPh1nE - 09-06-2013, 06:55 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 09-06-2013, 07:13 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by End0rPh1nE - 09-07-2013, 12:02 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 09-07-2013, 01:08 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 09-25-2013, 08:45 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by samuki - 09-25-2013, 08:54 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by taurus22 - 09-25-2013, 11:05 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 11-19-2013, 07:16 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by TDA - 11-19-2013, 07:39 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 11-19-2013, 09:25 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by TDA - 11-19-2013, 09:40 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 11-20-2013, 02:58 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 11-20-2013, 09:19 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 11-20-2013, 09:16 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 11-20-2013, 10:34 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 11-20-2013, 11:17 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by euronymous - 11-20-2013, 11:48 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by End0rPh1nE - 11-21-2013, 01:42 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by midji84 - 11-21-2013, 02:38 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 11-21-2013, 03:36 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 11-21-2013, 04:26 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by euronymous - 11-21-2013, 09:51 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 11-21-2013, 10:22 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 11-21-2013, 12:14 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by midji84 - 11-21-2013, 12:48 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 11-21-2013, 05:03 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 11-21-2013, 06:21 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by samuki - 11-21-2013, 08:08 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by Makso - 11-21-2013, 08:53 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 11-21-2013, 09:27 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 11-21-2013, 09:28 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by samuki - 11-21-2013, 09:49 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 11-21-2013, 09:50 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by Makso - 11-21-2013, 09:54 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 11-21-2013, 09:58 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by samuki - 11-21-2013, 10:32 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by Makso - 11-21-2013, 10:42 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 11-21-2013, 10:44 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 11-21-2013, 10:45 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 11-21-2013, 10:49 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by samuki - 11-21-2013, 10:51 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by Makso - 11-21-2013, 10:54 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 11-21-2013, 10:54 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 11-21-2013, 11:02 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by Makso - 11-22-2013, 11:51 AM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 11-22-2013, 12:55 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by Makso - 11-22-2013, 08:49 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by djera - 11-22-2013, 09:14 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 12-26-2013, 09:21 PM
RE: APEX NE555 zaštita - by pmiroslav81 - 05-24-2023, 08:34 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by TDA - 12-26-2013, 09:25 PM
APEX NE555 zaštita - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 12-26-2013, 09:37 PM

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