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Design Preamplifier
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Taj detajl na ulazu "5mVpeak@1KHz" ostao je iz prijašnje sheme, to je bilo za MM Phono kao referenca ulaznog napona.
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Ako pogledaš GAIN je Ao=1+ 510R/100R = negdje 6,1X
Za 2Vrms izlaza treba na ulazu 320mVrms signal u toj zakačenoj shemi.
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R10 je lokalni NFB a R26 globalni NFB (skupa sa R9), odabirom razmerja krojimo i karakter THDja.
Taj karakter THDja krojimo i asimetrijom sa P1 u ulaznom differencialnom paru, u dual current mirroru, posledicom nešto offseta iz prvog dijela,
kojeg kasnije popravljamo sa P2 u ulaznom delu izlaznog Buffera.
Hočemo neutralnu poraspodielu harmonika, ili izdizanje II., IV., VI..., ili iči na izdizanje neparnih, kombinacija je puno! Intenzivitet/izdizanje harmonika takodjer.
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2,2uF na ulazu u putanji signala sa ulaznom impedancom kroji HI-pass sa F_low_cut i limitacija je LOW strane BW, i ne da limitiramo HI stranu BW .
C1 povečamo, sada 100pF (ostalo od MM Phono) može i 1nF da se stavi, i time smanjimo HI stranu BW, a SR sklopa ostaje isti.
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Izlazni Diamond buffer je sada sa 45mA strujnim limitom (ostalo iz originalne sheme), postave se R12 i R21 manje vrednosti i time povečuje strujni limit.
Smanjenjem gornje postavke R12 i R21 pa i sa smanjenjem R28 i R29 povečamo mirnu struju izlaznih. Tako je guramo više u Aclassu.
Maknemo T17 i T18, nemamo izlaznog strujnog limitera.
Postavljanjem/uguranog otpornika izmedju spoja dioda D7, D8 i kolektora T3, slično i u donjem dijelu kod D5, D6 i kolektora T4, višamo izlaznu mirnu struju.
Promenom R23 višamo/nižamo bias struju po Diamond Bufferu i njegovu izlaznu mirnu struju.
Izlazni Diamond buffer može da ganja sluške, čak niskoimpedantne, treba predvidjeti i hladnjak izlaznih za to.
Buffer OUT može da bude i kao PRE OUT!
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OPAx828 ima SR od oko 150V/usec za Large signals. Sa JFE2140 na ulazu i vrlo brzim izlaznim bufferom MOŽDA dobijemo nešto viši SR, ranga do 200V/usec.
Njegov Common Mode input voltage range mu je prema NEG RAILu => (-V)+2,5V a do POS RAILa ide (+V) - 3,5V!

Dali imamo pravilno postavljeno opterečenje ulaznog differenciala?
Na kojim su naponima ulazi opampa i koliko oni max swinguju, da ne idemo iz save zone?

Pošto je OPA2828 dual, mogli bismo polovinu upotrebiti za DC servo!
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Overshoot kompenzacija radi se na par mesta i to kod Large signala, izlaz skoro do RAILova,
sa +/-18VDC napajanja, neka je to 30Vpp izlaza @1K LOAD četvrtkom na 10KHz (20KHz):
-R15+C2
-C9 + (dodatni otpornik)
-R24+C29 i R25+C30
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"izlazni sum je 15,8nV/sqrt(Hz)",
da, sa pojačanjem od 6,1X imamo oko 2,6nV/sqrt(Hz) ulaznog naponskog šuma, ne zaboraviti da je to sada Low noise FET opamp kompozit,
koji je ponajviše ∑/suma/zbir Johnsons noise R8 i R9 i naponskog šuma JFE2140 u differencialnom spoju, što daje sqrt(2) jači šum samo jednog JFETa.
Ako druge izvore šuma zanemarimo,
-šum reference ulazne kaskode, vrlo niska, ranga 0,5{nV/sqrt(Hz)}
-šum ulaznog CCSa, takodjer vrlo nizak, ranga do 1{nV/sqrt(Hz)}
-strujni šum JFET ulaza sa ulaznom impedancom, na +IN i -IN , tu imamo strujni šum nekoliko fA/sqrt(Hz)
i ako imamo ulazni izvor signala niske impedance, ranga ispod 100R, onda nam generira ukupno ranga do 1{nV/sqrt(Hz)}
Ovo gore skupa (suma ∑ po kvadratima) daje dodatnih cca 1,25{nV/sqrt(Hz)}

a imamo samo tim gore R8, R9 i JFETovima:
cca(e_tot)^2 = 2x (e_100R)^2 + sqrt(2)x(e_JFET)^2 = 2x (1,29)^2 + 1,4142x(1,0)^2 ....sqrt{∑} => 2,2 {nV/sqrt(Hz)}

i ako se dodaju još tih 1,25{nV/sqrt(Hz)}... zanemarljivih jel... malo more!
dobijemo:
sqrt{(1,25)^2 + (2,2)^2} = 2,53{nV/sqrt(Hz)}...što nije daleko od simulacijskog rezultata!

Tu je i degeneracija R2 i R4, isto dodaju malo-po-malo šuma!

Smanjenjem R8 i R9 spustit čemo i nešto šuma ali ne baš puno....
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AAS PSU
-neče pridonjeti tom šumu ništa, iako ima šum ispod 2{nV/sqrt(Hz)}, PSRR samog preampa če ukloniti i taj mali šum, a dodat če preamp svojeg... :-)
-pa neče ga ni smanjiti!
:-)
Ali dat če cijelom sklopu {preamp+PSU} izvanrednu imunost po pitanju PSRR!
LP
Dragan
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Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 08-30-2019, 02:49 PM
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RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 07-15-2023, 01:25 AM
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