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Design Preamplifier
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(07-02-2023, 09:37 PM)pinco Wrote:
(07-01-2023, 04:20 PM)ronovar Wrote: Za lampaski zvuk sam mislio parne harmonike da se dobije imitacija lampaskog zvuka slicno kao sto lateralni mosfeti oponasaju lampaski zvuk a nisu lampe, prevladavanje parnih harmonika jedino i je moguce posto neznam za drugi nacin kako se dobije lampaski zvuk a da se ne koriste lampe, pustimp Dragan100 da prezentira svoju ideju i imat cemo vrhunski preamp/headamp ko sto imamo i shunt psu.

Stavija si totalno simetričnu shemu, a ti ja bi parni harmonik.
Parni harmonik nema veze sa lampama, jel će i simetrični dizajn i sa lampama poništit parne harmonike.
Ako preamp ima mali thd, bit će praktički svejedno.

Istina, asimetrija unosi dodatan THD, zavisi gdje je asimetrišemo, tako i izdizanje (dominantno) parnih ili neparnih.

Nešto sam juče "bio radio" (...a di su mi antene?) na shemi ulaznog kompozita sa duplim JFET i brzim opampom, nizak ulazni naponski šum, visok SR, visok SNR, vrlo nizak THD, neutralan, 
dodao sam tih CCS ulaznog diferenciala, pa i strujno ogledalo, sad za izdizanje THDja po parnim/neparnim harmonicima "počupkat čemo" tu i tamo koji element 
ili staviti alternativu ili dodati trimmpot za asimetriju ulazni biasa....ili štošta drugo
.
Onda je tu i drugi kompozit sa brzim opampom i dodatkom sa izlaznim strujnim bufferom u Aclassi 25...200mA, 
ovaj takodje sa vrlo malim THD i visokim OLG,
Mogu BJTji u izlazu a mogu i Mosfeti, ovi drugi poješ-če nam dodatnih 4V izlaznog swinga kao kod BJTja.
znači TOT Quadro-kompozit, a totalnu sliku poraspodjele THD harmonika diktirat če nam ulazni kompozit, jer on vršiti globalni NFB!

Ja ču prezentirati sasvim neutralni preamp, pa ga se može naknadno "osiromašiti" po želji.
Imam poneke obaveze, vračam se navečer, pa ču možda tada "sastaviti" preamp/headamp

Za sada nešto semica:

Ulazni JFET-opamp kompozit
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Izlazni kompozit u dve variante:
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Imate i TINA filove pa se možete poigrati, prvo pogledajte svaku shemu za sebe, onda možete spojiti ulazni sa jednom od izlaznih, sa globalnim NFB i dodatkom popravka phase, da se nema u četvrtki 10...20KHz nekog oversoota, ili u Bode grafu neki HF peaking pojačanja.
Naravno i da se takav kompozit na kraju ne "uspori" previše jer želimo visok SR...


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Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 08-30-2019, 02:49 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Jevrem - 08-30-2019, 06:50 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 08-31-2019, 12:05 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 08-31-2019, 12:23 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 08-31-2019, 11:11 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 09-01-2019, 03:08 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 09-01-2019, 08:27 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 09-01-2019, 10:28 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 09-01-2019, 10:56 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 09-01-2019, 11:51 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Bocko - 09-01-2019, 11:57 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 09-01-2019, 12:23 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 09-02-2019, 06:22 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 09-02-2019, 08:02 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 09-03-2019, 07:13 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 09-03-2019, 08:04 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 09-03-2019, 04:02 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 09-03-2019, 04:57 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 03-14-2020, 10:48 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 03-15-2020, 12:48 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by branko tod - 03-14-2020, 11:03 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 03-14-2020, 11:18 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by branko tod - 03-14-2020, 11:31 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 03-15-2020, 01:31 AM
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RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 03-15-2020, 02:02 AM
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RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 06-30-2023, 06:39 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 06-30-2023, 09:48 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by pinco - 07-01-2023, 08:57 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-01-2023, 08:31 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-01-2023, 10:49 AM
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RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 07-01-2023, 04:09 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Boban - 07-01-2023, 04:13 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-01-2023, 04:20 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by pinco - 07-02-2023, 09:37 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 07-03-2023, 08:03 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-04-2023, 04:28 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-06-2023, 10:55 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 07-14-2023, 07:58 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-14-2023, 09:33 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 07-15-2023, 01:25 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-15-2023, 08:24 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 07-15-2023, 03:04 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-15-2023, 03:47 PM
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RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 07-16-2023, 10:12 AM
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RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 07-17-2023, 10:46 AM
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