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ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection
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Evo izmene. U LT spice u kom volim da crtam jer je ekstra lako i brzo, nemam LM393 pa sam stavio neki njihov komparator kom sam precrtao oznaku i pored napisao LM393.

Sklop za detekciju "overtemperature" ima na oba ulaza komparatora napone reda 0,76V na neinvertujućem i na 25*C do 30mV na invertujućem. To ćemo simetrično svesti na pola radi pragova D1 i D2.

Bias struja LM393 je 25nA i kada se dodaju R5 i R8 (oba 100K) na njima će biti pad napona oko 2,5mV što ni najmanje ne smeta sklopu.
R1 i R2 su promenjeni na po 47K da bi onih 0,76V na "C" sveli ispod praga dioda D1 i D2 (1N4148). Pošto su na oba kraja mosta promenjene gornje otpornosti u istoj srazmeri, i one minimalno utiču na histerezis od 1M, temperaturna detekcija bi trebalo da ostane približno nepormenjena.

E sad, postojeći R6 (100k) koji ide sa izlaza ampa na C1 i formira niskopropusni filter, kome je RC konstanta 4,7 sekundi, zadržaće svoju ulogu, zajedno sa R7 koji služi za pražnjenje C1.

Dok je samo naizmenična komponenta na izlazu ampa, na C1 će biti neki maleni napon (na 10Hz tek neki stoti deo napona na izlazu ampa), i nema DC komponente ni jednog polariteta kroz diode D1 i D2.
Ako se pojavi DC, jedna od dioda će to dovesti na korespodentan ulaz komparatora i odraditi isto što bi i overtemperature.

Nesimetrija pozitivne i negativne detekcije može biti  433mV sa totalno hladnim ampom, a kako se zagreva ta asimetrija će biti manja.

Detekcioni pragovi možda budu oko +- 1,5V sa pomenutom asimetrijom.

Tranzistori Q1 i Q2 bi se izbacili...

Pozz

Evo šeme:


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P.S.

Naravno, izmenio sam samo deo šeme koji vidite. ostalo ostaje nepromenjeno.
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ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 09-04-2016, 05:53 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 09-04-2016, 06:40 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 09-04-2016, 09:11 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by npejcic - 09-05-2016, 08:23 AM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 09-05-2016, 09:18 AM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by apexaudio - 09-05-2016, 09:24 AM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 09-05-2016, 03:04 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by Gosha - 09-05-2016, 03:30 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 09-05-2016, 03:36 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by Macola - 09-05-2016, 06:42 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by Macola - 09-05-2016, 06:51 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 09-05-2016, 07:05 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by LordZi - 09-05-2016, 06:51 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by Macola - 09-05-2016, 07:43 PM
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RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by apexaudio - 09-05-2016, 07:59 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by Macola - 09-05-2016, 08:07 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by Macola - 09-05-2016, 08:32 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 09-05-2016, 08:50 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by Macola - 09-05-2016, 08:57 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 09-05-2016, 09:49 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 09-08-2016, 08:03 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 09-14-2016, 11:17 AM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by samuki - 11-06-2017, 04:08 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by TDA - 11-06-2017, 04:58 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by samuki - 11-06-2017, 06:21 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 11-06-2017, 08:05 PM
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RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 06-29-2018, 03:11 PM
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RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 12-17-2018, 12:17 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by TDA - 12-17-2018, 01:52 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 12-17-2018, 03:14 PM
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RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 12-18-2018, 08:08 AM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by Gosha - 12-18-2018, 08:23 AM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by Dragan100 - 12-18-2018, 11:50 AM
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RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 12-18-2018, 01:03 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 12-18-2018, 04:28 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by Dragan100 - 12-18-2018, 05:24 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 12-18-2018, 06:11 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by Dragan100 - 12-18-2018, 06:36 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 12-18-2018, 06:52 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by branko tod - 12-18-2018, 09:14 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 12-18-2018, 09:51 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 02-09-2019, 05:00 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by Khadgar2007 - 02-09-2019, 05:47 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 05-21-2019, 09:19 AM
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RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 05-21-2019, 09:41 AM
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RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 05-30-2019, 09:38 AM
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RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 08-08-2019, 11:06 AM
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RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by Dragan100 - 08-08-2019, 04:35 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 08-10-2019, 11:38 AM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 08-08-2019, 07:48 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by Dragan100 - 08-08-2019, 08:12 PM
RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 09-09-2019, 01:17 PM
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RE: ELEKTOR - Speaker Protection - by ronovar - 09-09-2019, 03:36 PM
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