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LNA 60dB D100
Dragane, meni za prvi test nije potrebna matična pločica, jer sa izuzetkom servo kola, ULNA modul sadrži skoro sve što mi je potrebno za prva merenja.
Naravno, ulazni RC član će morati da bude improvizovan na pomoćnoj pločici, a ako baš zapne za servo, i njega ću improvizovati.

Što se kalibracije pojačanja tiče, tu bi neki AC kalibrator (oscilator) bio koristan, ali mi iskustvo govori da je to zahtevan projekat.
Srećom, postoji jednostavan alternativni metod, koji se zasniva na merenju termičkog šuma otpornika.
U konkretnom slučaju, na ulaz LNA vezujem kvalitetan otpornik čiji je šum oko 10 puta veći od šuma ULNA (napr. 1k, šum na 22ºC: 4,037nV/rtHz), tako da na izlazu očekujem 4.07 µV/rtHz.
Ako mi ADC u spektru pokaže 4µV/rtHz, pojačanje ULNA je 89,85dB, a napraviti AC kalibrator tog ranga nije lako.

U prilogu su rezultati merenja šuma Wurcer-ovog LNA (0,7nV/rtHz) pomoću Cosmos-a. Odozdo naviše je nativni šum LNA (ulaz na masi, 0,7nV/rtHz), zatim na ulazu otpornik od 100R (1,28nV/rtHz @ 22ºC), a vrhu je šum otpornika od 1538R (5nV/rtHz @ 22ºC).
Sva tri spektra prikazuju korektan rezultat i to na ADC opsegu od 4,5V.

Naravno, ovo moje pisanije ne znači da sam protiv razvoja matične pločice, već samo da mi za prve testove nije neophodna.
Kad smo već kod toga, imam dilemu da li će nekom za audio biti potrebno više od dva ULNA modula, jer smo tada već oko šuma Groner-ovog LNA (sa dva modula imamo računski šum reda 0,39nV/rtHz, a sa četiri 0,275 nV/rtHz - nije baš veliki dobitak).
Za ilustraciju, moj LNA po Wurcer-ovoj šemi ima sa samo jednim tranzistorom šum od 0,7nV/rtHz (OK, imao sam sreće da se između pet tranzistora našao jedan rekorder)


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LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-02-2024, 06:15 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-17-2024, 10:33 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by ronovar - 03-17-2024, 09:20 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Majda - 03-21-2024, 09:46 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-23-2024, 04:49 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 12-31-2024, 04:49 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-02-2025, 12:29 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 01-02-2025, 02:56 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-02-2025, 07:07 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 01-03-2025, 01:05 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-03-2025, 08:46 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-04-2025, 01:13 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 01-04-2025, 02:06 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-04-2025, 03:56 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-10-2025, 07:47 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-04-2025, 05:05 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 01-11-2025, 02:33 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-11-2025, 11:04 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-12-2025, 01:45 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-12-2025, 01:48 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-12-2025, 03:33 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 01-12-2025, 05:35 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-12-2025, 06:19 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-12-2025, 09:24 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-12-2025, 05:55 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-12-2025, 06:04 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 01-13-2025, 06:10 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 01-14-2025, 09:08 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-15-2025, 07:59 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-16-2025, 06:40 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 01-17-2025, 11:42 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-17-2025, 03:45 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 01-18-2025, 02:03 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-19-2025, 09:46 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-19-2025, 02:45 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 01-23-2025, 12:29 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-23-2025, 12:45 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by mikikg - 01-24-2025, 05:28 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 01-23-2025, 02:17 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-23-2025, 03:20 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 01-24-2025, 01:46 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-24-2025, 02:57 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 01-24-2025, 10:22 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 01-24-2025, 06:10 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-25-2025, 01:27 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 01-26-2025, 02:03 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-26-2025, 02:33 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 01-26-2025, 04:17 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-09-2025, 07:00 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 02-09-2025, 08:46 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-09-2025, 08:48 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-09-2025, 09:59 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 02-10-2025, 09:53 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 02-10-2025, 10:47 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 02-10-2025, 12:51 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-10-2025, 11:37 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 02-10-2025, 01:08 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 02-10-2025, 01:09 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 02-10-2025, 02:02 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-10-2025, 03:22 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 02-10-2025, 03:44 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-10-2025, 04:02 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 02-10-2025, 04:34 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-10-2025, 04:52 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-10-2025, 05:25 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 02-10-2025, 05:39 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-10-2025, 05:50 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 02-10-2025, 05:52 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-10-2025, 06:02 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-10-2025, 09:19 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-10-2025, 10:49 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 02-11-2025, 12:50 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-11-2025, 08:32 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-11-2025, 08:39 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by mikikg - 02-11-2025, 09:32 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by ddanijel - 02-11-2025, 10:29 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 02-11-2025, 11:29 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 02-11-2025, 12:44 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-11-2025, 09:37 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-11-2025, 11:09 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 02-11-2025, 12:14 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by mikikg - 02-11-2025, 02:01 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 02-11-2025, 06:33 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by progster - 02-11-2025, 07:06 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Vlajko - 02-11-2025, 09:08 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-11-2025, 10:03 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by mikikg - 02-11-2025, 10:16 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by mikikg - 02-12-2025, 10:22 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Vlajko - 02-11-2025, 10:25 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 02-11-2025, 11:52 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by mikikg - 02-12-2025, 01:54 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-12-2025, 09:24 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 02-12-2025, 11:33 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-12-2025, 12:05 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-12-2025, 12:36 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-12-2025, 01:33 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-12-2025, 01:42 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 02-12-2025, 02:11 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-12-2025, 02:58 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-12-2025, 03:39 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 02-12-2025, 07:21 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-12-2025, 08:13 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 02-12-2025, 08:52 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-12-2025, 09:23 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 02-15-2025, 05:04 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by mikikg - 02-13-2025, 08:53 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-13-2025, 01:19 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by mikikg - 02-13-2025, 04:36 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-13-2025, 05:21 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 02-13-2025, 08:01 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Khadgar2007 - 02-13-2025, 09:15 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-13-2025, 09:21 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by mikikg - 02-14-2025, 02:14 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 02-14-2025, 11:15 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 02-14-2025, 04:35 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-16-2025, 01:25 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 02-16-2025, 02:09 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-16-2025, 03:07 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 02-17-2025, 02:20 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 02-17-2025, 05:30 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 02-17-2025, 06:38 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 02-18-2025, 03:27 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Bocko - 02-18-2025, 05:10 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 02-19-2025, 03:31 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 02-21-2025, 11:19 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 02-22-2025, 05:39 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 02-23-2025, 02:44 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 02-27-2025, 12:44 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 02-27-2025, 01:07 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 02-27-2025, 03:41 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 02-27-2025, 01:54 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 02-27-2025, 07:16 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-01-2025, 09:13 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 03-01-2025, 12:30 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 8 hours ago
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 5 hours ago
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 56 minutes ago
RE: PCB Design Routing - by Dragan100 - 03-04-2024, 03:29 PM
LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-04-2024, 05:14 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-04-2024, 05:46 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-04-2024, 05:51 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-04-2024, 08:56 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-04-2024, 09:53 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Bocko - 03-05-2024, 08:23 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-06-2024, 08:50 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by ronovar - 03-07-2024, 06:51 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-07-2024, 08:00 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-07-2024, 12:35 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Khadgar2007 - 03-07-2024, 08:43 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-07-2024, 11:49 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-07-2024, 01:55 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by ronovar - 03-07-2024, 11:10 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-08-2024, 07:31 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Khadgar2007 - 03-08-2024, 08:50 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-08-2024, 11:08 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Khadgar2007 - 03-08-2024, 11:46 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-08-2024, 01:42 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Khadgar2007 - 03-08-2024, 03:32 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by ronovar - 03-08-2024, 03:58 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-08-2024, 06:15 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Khadgar2007 - 03-08-2024, 06:23 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Khadgar2007 - 03-08-2024, 06:37 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-08-2024, 06:51 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by ronovar - 03-08-2024, 07:18 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-08-2024, 08:13 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-09-2024, 10:56 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-09-2024, 12:36 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-09-2024, 03:12 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-09-2024, 03:27 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-09-2024, 04:08 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-09-2024, 05:05 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-09-2024, 07:36 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-09-2024, 08:48 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-09-2024, 10:10 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-10-2024, 09:54 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-09-2024, 11:10 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-10-2024, 09:57 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-10-2024, 10:58 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Khadgar2007 - 03-10-2024, 11:38 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Khadgar2007 - 03-10-2024, 11:41 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-10-2024, 11:49 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 03-10-2024, 12:38 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-10-2024, 03:50 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-10-2024, 06:30 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 03-10-2024, 06:34 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-10-2024, 07:06 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-10-2024, 08:51 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-10-2024, 09:19 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-10-2024, 09:36 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Braca - 03-11-2024, 01:24 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-11-2024, 01:26 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-12-2024, 09:17 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-12-2024, 09:56 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-12-2024, 10:52 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-12-2024, 01:06 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-12-2024, 03:40 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-12-2024, 05:34 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-12-2024, 03:43 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-12-2024, 07:22 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-12-2024, 09:04 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-12-2024, 10:19 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-14-2024, 03:23 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-14-2024, 03:32 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-14-2024, 04:19 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Khadgar2007 - 03-14-2024, 06:28 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-14-2024, 07:19 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-14-2024, 07:37 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-15-2024, 10:07 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 03-15-2024, 11:11 AM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-15-2024, 12:14 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by savan - 03-15-2024, 12:20 PM
RE: LNA 60dB D100 - by Dragan100 - 12-20-2024, 04:35 PM
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RE: PCB Design Routing - by ronovar - 03-04-2024, 09:59 PM
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RE: PCB Design Routing - by ronovar - 03-08-2024, 11:35 PM
RE: PCB Design Routing - by Braca - 03-09-2024, 09:26 AM
RE: PCB Design Routing - by Khadgar2007 - 03-09-2024, 09:55 AM
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RE: PCB Design Routing - by savan - 03-11-2024, 01:22 PM
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RE: PCB Design Routing - by ronovar - 03-11-2024, 04:06 PM
RE: PCB Design Routing - by Dragan100 - 03-11-2024, 05:19 PM
RE: PCB Design Routing - by Braca - 03-11-2024, 05:53 PM
RE: PCB Design Routing - by ronovar - 03-11-2024, 05:57 PM
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RE: PCB Design Routing - by ronovar - 03-12-2024, 03:21 PM
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RE: PCB Design Routing - by ronovar - 03-15-2024, 11:19 AM
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