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Si5351 + PIC16F1455 USB controller
I to sam spomenuo ali još jednom, upotrebom Peltier elementa kao izvršnog mehanizma za regulaciju temperature dobija se vrlo zanimljiv koncept jer sa tim može da se svaki kristal preko temperature TAČNO NATRIMUJE NA ŽELJENU FREKVENCIJU, na tačo 10.0...0MHz.

AT-cut kristali koji imamo svi manje više u raznim oblicima su "najmirniji" na 25*C, tu je zaravnjanje njegove temperaturno zavisne krive, kao "brdo", na vrh brda je tačka gde promenom temperature njemu se skoro ne menja ili vrlo malo menja frekvencija i to je za taj konkretan primerak kristala najoptimalnija tačka.

Problem nastaje kada na 25*C nije 10.0....0MHz koliko smo tačno hteli, uvek to pobegne na neku stranu, i tu imaju dva izbora ili dva puta, jedan je da se kristal sa kondenzatorima za opterećenje elketrično natrimuje na tačnu frekvenciju pri 25*C što bi bilo idealno ili da se to ne radi nego da ga "pomeramo" temperaturom u jednu ili drugu stranu što opet nije dobro jer onda ulazimo u nelinearne delove regulacije po karakteristikama kristala, čak invertovane su jedna i druga stranana tj smer ka/od 25*C.

Trimovanje sa kondezatorima je najbolja varijanta i ako se to drži sve sa Peltier-om na 25*C to je to, tada je stvarno sve na svom mestu.
Ako se to radi sa Black Pill, radio sam sweep temperature od nekih 18*C do nekih 85*C, kuvao sam pillulicu žešće sa nekim otprnicima Smile i tako može da se dobije tačan profil temperaturne zavistnosti kristala i kako mu se menja frekvencija, rekoh kod AT-cut baš se dobije oblik "brda".

Trimovanje pomoću kondenzatora je dobra opcija ali praktično zahtevna, naći tačan primerak ili više primeraka.

Ima rešenje i za to!

Ko je čuo ili koristio komponentu pod oznakom BB103, BB105 ili neku sličnu iz te serije ? Big Grin

Magična VARICAP DIODA kojoj promenom napona se menja njen kapacitet i čim može da menja kapacitet ona može da pull-uje kristale na tačne frekvencije i ne samo to nego može i da moduliše ceo oscilator FM ili PM modulacijom i to ako nekome treba se zove Spred-Spectrum Big Grin

Dakle AT ili SC kristal, podmetnut na Black Pill kao XTAL za MCU, doda se VARICAP DIODA za puuling tamo oni čuveni 22pF, na njih se to doda i dovodi se kontrolni napon iz nekog vrlo finog DAC-a, 24bit DC DAC, ima Microchip za to fine stvari i napravi se tako da moze da se utiče samo vrlo malim delom na krajnju frekvenciju, recimo +/-5ppm kako bi se smanjio drift i uticaj ostalih komponenti.

Sa tom Varicap ili varaktor diodom kako je isto zovu se dobije ono "V" kod oscilaora, sa i bez kristala, VCO ili VCXO ili VTCXO ili VOCXO ili GPSO-VCXO ili već neka kombinacija sa "V" Smile
Limitiran je opseg kada je kristal u pitanju, može da se ide recimo do +/-50ppm od nazivne frekvencije bez većih problema.

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Si5351 + PIC16F1455 USB controller - by mikikg - 11-05-2014, 09:51 AM
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