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Design Preamplifier
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U potrazi sam za jednim dobrim preampom, pa sam malo gledao sheme od Bore i jako mi se svidja shema TAG-a...pa ako moze pomoc iskusnih u simulatoru da je prerade da bude preamp i da se napaja sa +/-24VDC....volio bih da pored 2 vrhunska PSU (koja smo obradili ovdje na forumu), imamo i adekvatni preamp koji će da izvuče maximum iz PSU i da da čim bolje karakteristike. Shema je sa Borinog site, a i nalazi se na velikom forumu....

Željene specifikacija kod design-a preampa:
* napajanje +/-24VDC
* Flat Preamp (ravan u audio području i izvan njega)
* visok SlewRate
* nizak šum
* jednostavnost i nabave dijelova
* da budu TH elementi
* i da bude vrhunska shema i design

ULAZ:
Na ulaz ELNA 2x24 sa puno otpornika da izbjegnemo potenciometre koji unose svoj šum (dakle slično kao na FlatBT crvenim pločicama kako je odradjeni ulazni dio sa ELNA). Jest da je skupa ELNA ali ako hocemo vrh onda nek je vrh.

INPUT STAGE:
Imam par ideja koje mislim da su jako zanimljive i iz njih bi mogli dobiti izuzetan i kvaliteta preamp, gledao sam shemu TAG (Talisman AudioPhile Grade) i svidja mi se jako ulazni dio koji je Bora poboljašao a radi se o Quinnovom cascomp spoju za ulazni dio, i ako se bolje pogleda koriste se 2SA970 u ulaznom djelu što je odlično i prilično su stegnuti ulazni tranzistori gdje je drift sveden na minimum kao i šum. Pa predlažem da se iskoristi navedeni input stage sa sheme kojeg treba preraditi na +/-24VDC napajanja.

VAS:
Voltage Amplifier Stage bih iskoristio kaskodu sa LED diodom (jer one imaju najmanji šum), i iskopirao bih ga sa FlatBT pretpojačala (shema postoji ovdje na forumu), i mislim da bi to bilo baš odlično.

TEMPERATURE TRACKING:
Tu bih umjesto trimera (koji inače imaju svoj šum), bilo dobro staviti TL431 ili LM4040-2V0 naponsku referencu i sa otpornim djelilom postaviti mirnu struju na 50mA. Time bismo izbjegli šum trimera i drugo sve se automatski postavlja na svoju zadanu vrijednost kad se pretpojačalo upali.

OUTPUT STAGE:
Klasika emitter follower ili IGBT ili Diamond Buffer...ovisno što se bolje pokaže. Tu bih stavio za izlaz tranzistore u TO126 kućištu TOSHIBA ili SANYO ovisno što je u današenje vrijeme nabavljivo.

Ja sam precrtao input stage i VAS, pa postavljam TSC file da se moze copy paste taj dio i spice modeli da se kompletira shema.


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Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 08-30-2019, 02:49 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Jevrem - 08-30-2019, 06:50 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 08-31-2019, 12:05 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 08-31-2019, 12:23 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 08-31-2019, 11:11 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 09-01-2019, 03:08 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 09-01-2019, 08:27 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 09-01-2019, 10:28 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 09-01-2019, 10:56 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 09-01-2019, 11:51 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Bocko - 09-01-2019, 11:57 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 09-01-2019, 12:23 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 09-02-2019, 06:22 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 09-02-2019, 08:02 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 09-03-2019, 07:13 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 09-03-2019, 08:04 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 09-03-2019, 04:02 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 09-03-2019, 04:57 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 03-14-2020, 10:48 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 03-15-2020, 12:48 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by branko tod - 03-14-2020, 11:03 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 03-14-2020, 11:18 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by branko tod - 03-14-2020, 11:31 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 03-15-2020, 01:31 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by branko tod - 03-15-2020, 01:50 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 03-15-2020, 02:02 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by apexaudio - 03-15-2020, 09:17 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 03-15-2020, 01:10 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by apexaudio - 03-15-2020, 04:05 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 03-15-2020, 04:35 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by apexaudio - 03-15-2020, 05:54 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by apexaudio - 04-26-2020, 12:04 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by apexaudio - 09-14-2020, 10:29 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by apexaudio - 09-21-2020, 11:49 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ddanijel - 09-22-2020, 07:35 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 06-30-2023, 06:39 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 06-30-2023, 09:48 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by pinco - 07-01-2023, 08:57 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-01-2023, 08:31 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-01-2023, 10:49 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-01-2023, 02:53 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-01-2023, 03:35 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 07-01-2023, 04:09 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Boban - 07-01-2023, 04:13 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-01-2023, 04:20 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by pinco - 07-02-2023, 09:37 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 07-03-2023, 08:03 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-04-2023, 04:28 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-06-2023, 10:55 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 07-14-2023, 07:58 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-14-2023, 09:33 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 07-15-2023, 01:25 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-15-2023, 08:24 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 07-15-2023, 03:04 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-15-2023, 03:47 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-15-2023, 10:02 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 07-16-2023, 10:12 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-16-2023, 11:00 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-16-2023, 11:30 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-16-2023, 01:00 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 07-16-2023, 05:48 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-16-2023, 08:43 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 07-17-2023, 10:46 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-17-2023, 11:07 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 07-17-2023, 11:36 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-17-2023, 11:46 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-17-2023, 11:47 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 07-17-2023, 11:52 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-17-2023, 11:50 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-17-2023, 02:13 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-17-2023, 02:18 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-17-2023, 02:23 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-17-2023, 05:13 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Braca - 07-17-2023, 05:36 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-17-2023, 07:00 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-17-2023, 07:01 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-17-2023, 07:01 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Braca - 07-17-2023, 07:14 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-18-2023, 06:04 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-18-2023, 09:06 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-18-2023, 09:30 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-18-2023, 09:38 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Boban - 07-18-2023, 09:39 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-18-2023, 09:53 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-18-2023, 10:09 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-21-2023, 07:52 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-18-2023, 10:43 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-18-2023, 12:16 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-18-2023, 12:30 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-18-2023, 01:00 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-18-2023, 01:07 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-18-2023, 01:27 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Khadgar2007 - 07-18-2023, 03:00 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-18-2023, 03:18 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-18-2023, 03:39 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 07-19-2023, 10:04 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Boban - 07-18-2023, 08:02 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-18-2023, 08:55 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Vlada021 - 07-19-2023, 01:09 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 07-19-2023, 08:59 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-19-2023, 06:56 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Vlada021 - 07-19-2023, 11:25 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-19-2023, 11:31 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-19-2023, 11:53 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-19-2023, 11:56 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-19-2023, 07:28 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-19-2023, 07:53 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-19-2023, 08:16 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by HomeMadeAudioProject - 07-19-2023, 07:54 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-19-2023, 08:11 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-19-2023, 08:24 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-19-2023, 09:08 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-19-2023, 10:50 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-20-2023, 10:24 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by progster - 07-20-2023, 10:36 AM
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RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 07-20-2023, 02:11 PM
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RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-21-2023, 08:55 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-21-2023, 11:10 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-21-2023, 11:16 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Аритон - 07-21-2023, 11:30 AM
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RE: Design Preamplifier - by savan - 07-21-2023, 01:39 PM
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RE: Design Preamplifier - by progster - 07-21-2023, 02:23 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-21-2023, 02:59 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-21-2023, 02:43 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Boban - 07-21-2023, 03:19 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-21-2023, 05:11 PM
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RE: Design Preamplifier - by savan - 07-21-2023, 08:37 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Boban - 07-21-2023, 05:17 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Khadgar2007 - 07-21-2023, 05:23 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Boban - 07-21-2023, 06:01 PM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Аритон - 07-21-2023, 09:50 PM
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RE: Design Preamplifier - by savan - 07-22-2023, 09:39 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-22-2023, 09:45 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by pmiroslav81 - 07-23-2023, 08:23 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-22-2023, 09:46 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-22-2023, 09:50 AM
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RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 07-23-2023, 10:43 AM
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RE: Design Preamplifier - by Dragan100 - 07-25-2023, 10:46 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by Аритон - 07-23-2023, 03:10 PM
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RE: Design Preamplifier - by Аритон - 07-24-2023, 12:47 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-24-2023, 05:55 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-24-2023, 06:53 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by BeliNinja - 07-24-2023, 10:48 AM
RE: Design Preamplifier - by ronovar - 07-24-2023, 11:03 AM
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