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STM32 generic board
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Sve vas razumem, i Macolu sto mu je drag Forth, i yugaja koji voli bare metal, i Nebojsu sa PIC-evima, Vojina sa ASM, manje vise sam prosao kroz sve to, ja samo kazem da je mnogo velika pomoc ako imaju dobre i proverene biblioteke, nebitno u kom obliku, dali kao sherovani objekti koji praktikuju MCP i ST, bilo kao Arduino sa svojom abstrakcijom, u sustini to sve dodje na isto, pa isto bi trebalo i da ispadne pisao ga ja najbolje sto znam u ASM ili to pisali MCP i ST, stim sto je kod MCP periferialni lib zatvorenog code-a, nema sourse, kod ostalih ima sourse ...

Mnooogooo je neko ulozio truda da te biblioteke skocka i debagira, ovo sa Arduinom je jedino dobra prica sto te biblioteke koristi mnooogo ljudi pa vrlo lako isplivaju bugovi i u neka doba se to popravi pa na kraju ispadne to sve solidno, ne perfektno ali to radi u sustini dobro.
Programerski sat za MCU platformu nije jeftin, posebno za pisanje u ASM (to je najskuplje), klienti traze jeftina i brza resenja koja njima zavrsavaju posao, njega bas briga u cemu je to pisano ako zadovoljava trazenu specifikaciju i ako to ne pravi probleme i ako je odrzivo na definisan vremenski period (recimo 5-10 godina, extremno je dinamicno trzisto pa sve to dodatno komplikuje pricu).

Ozbiljne SW firme imaju gomile programera, imaju razvijenu metodologiju pisanja programa, imaju posebne timove koji pisu programe i posebne koji ih testiraju, imaju internu organizaciju celog razvojnog ciklusa od ideje do finalnog proizvoda sa strogom kontrolom kvaliteta u svim fazama, ali to koooooostaaaa debelo, idite kod njih pitajte da vam urade neki program za MCU koliko ce to da kosta? Smile

Za low-budzete ili start-up projekte je preskupo razvijati software u ASM, cak i bare-metal C/C++ je pitanje isplatljivosti, zato su isplivale sve ove razne platforme za programiranje koje drasticno ubrzavaju razvoj sto naravno ima i svoje lose strane ali koliko para toliko muzike Smile

Evo nekoliko pitanja za sve vas, ko od vas koristi test paterne i test frejmworkove (UnitTesting i slicno) za testiranje SW-a u fazi razvoja?
Ko od vas koristi JTAG i Boundary scan za testiranje na nivou "ozicenja" na PCB?
Ko je od vas zadnji put angazovao security experte da analiziraju vasu aplikaciju?
Kada ste zadnji put pisali kernel module za neku od vasih periferija?

Skupa je to igranka ... Smile

Kolege iz firme trebaju da rade neki glomazan ERP sistem, ljudi znate koliko je slozen jedan takav sistem i sta sve tu mora da se odradi da bi to profunkcionisalo kako treba, tu se ASM i C/C++ ne spominje ni u snovima, vise se isplati uzeti rack nakrcan sa najboljim serverima i pisati to sve u uzasno sporoj Javi (u embeded svetu ekvivaletno snaznom kontroleru sa relativno sporim ali stabilnim framework-om) ...
Ili raditi sa Big Data sistemima ...

Ja vam samo prenosim moje iskustvo od ASM za MCU do recimo SAP-a i Oracla i gde je neka "mera" za dobar code po pristupacnoj ceni ...
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STM32 generic board - by gigabyte091 - 02-15-2017, 01:23 PM
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RE: STM32 generic board - by gigabyte091 - 03-02-2017, 03:49 PM
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RE: STM32 generic board - by gigabyte091 - 03-02-2017, 07:51 PM
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RE: STM32 generic board - by mikikg - 03-06-2017, 06:04 PM
RE: STM32 generic board - by Macola - 03-06-2017, 07:22 PM
RE: STM32 generic board - by Macola - 03-06-2017, 07:38 PM
RE: STM32 generic board - by Macola - 03-06-2017, 07:47 PM
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RE: STM32 generic board - by vojinilic - 03-07-2017, 08:03 PM
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RE: STM32 generic board - by mikikg - 03-07-2017, 11:21 PM
RE: STM32 generic board - by Macola - 03-07-2017, 11:38 PM
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